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Old 2014-04-22, 01:40   Link #30
SoboSobo
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Originally Posted by Guest2 View Post
You know that cannot be right. Its never been stated that they identify eidos as a whole. You are over-exaggerating the statement that only a few can clearly identify and differentiate them. You have read about people other than Tatsuya targeting individual objects, people, molecules, even nerves and forces, and then using magic on them. So of course they can target individual eidos, but they are unable to actually 'see' or identify the data they have targeted like Tatsuya can. In V9 they explain mages normally use vision or 1 of the other 5 senses as a shortcut to target individual eidos, but can have their magic fail if these senses are fooled and their input coordinates for where they thought the target was, are wrong.

I've also already pointed out that when Tatsuya was explaining his decomposition in V2, he only specifically mentioned his special sensory ability was required for disassembling magic and activation sequences. There is nowhere in the novel that indicates a person must have elemental sight to be able to use decomposition magic on objects.
man that was an exact passage from the Light Novel. Look it up its not like i just left out words or something i`m just making my opinion based on that.

The word "as a whole" might be a little off for the description i was trying to say.
I`ll try another explanation, a normal magicians can identify the eidos of a car for example as a car. tatsuyas ES can identify every piece in that car individually. You are right if he wants to decompose the whole car is one thing but if he wants to decompose only a precise part of the car then he needs the ES to identify that very specific edios for decomposition.

His elemental sight is not something he can turn off and on like a switch. His ES is always working to some degree that's why it is said he always has an "eye" on miyuki because his ES always tracks miuyki's edios and the eidos around her.
To say he doesn`t need ES for decomposition, we don't know because since ES is active in some form all the time we haven`t seen him use decomposition without it.
Also ES can be expanded to the point of entering link space by using his conscious mind but that form of ES he doesn`t use for combat seems more like an information gathering tool

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Originally Posted by Echizen777 View Post
Precisely, contrary to the others, doesn't he use ES by default ? He identify the Eidos with ES, reads the information and confirms its form then decomposes it.

Then, shouldn't FC be considered as a sort of Pyschic Power? I am more interested to see the results of their researches now.
yes ES is a default option for him.

Man in know what you are saying, you compare FC to Pyschic Power because the parasites use magic without using activation sequences.
The FC does use activation sequences but instead of taking them from the cad that takes time to assemble them the FC uses the activation sequence that is already constructed and stored in the magicians brain.

Even so the FC and Pyschic Power are still very similar.

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