View Single Post
Old 2014-04-17, 06:38   Link #66
SoboSobo
Reader, thinker, Retard
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guest2 View Post
I am not sure what you mean by the same underdog formula. Since volume 2 began, there has been very little, if any, underdog component. While Tatsuya often tries to use his lack of magic ability as an excuse to escape job requests, nobody buys it and throughout the series his sempais use him as they please because they know how dependable he is. Masaki and Ichijou wee treating him as a rival even before they saw him battle. Even his step mother and aunt count on him to solve their problems. Its a fact he cannot use powerful magic except for a select few spells, but he is constantly treated as super talented by the other novel characters. I feel like you're personally wrongly marking him as an underdog/ since in the novel I feel its made clear he'sbeen treated as one of the strongest from since the beginning.

Since volume 1 from the exam scores and the Hanzo duel he's been treated as 1 of the strongest as well as smartest. Sayaka and Kirihara even went into long monologues about how strong he is. But its still a fact that he lacks the talent to use the majority of magics that blooms consider to be basic. What difference would it make if his background and magics were made public?

- His magician rank would increase and he would be treated as a powerful magician?
--Doubt it. He can only barely use most magics, so his rank wouldn't increase unless the system changed. And the school body, Yotsuba and JSDF already treat him as a powerful magician for those magics and skills he does excel at. The school even went through a bunch of trouble to set up a new curriculum just to change his weed status. Its the JSDF that ordered him not to use his strongest skills in public as he's their secret weapon. The Yotsuba only ordered him to keep a low profile and prevent others from discovering Miyuki's background for safety reasons.

-He gains the respect of his peers and no one would look down on him?
--He already has the respect of his teachers, colleagues, workmates and most of his peers. Knowing he's Yotsuba might put the fear in them of being openly disrespectful, but those that still look down on him even after having seen his skills and might will continue to do so, because he definitely still lacks talent with most magics.

-He can openly use his magic in duels and mock battles to show his true magic strength?
--In a contest of destroying inanimate targets yes, but not in a duel or mock battle. Tatsuya's only strong offensive magic is quite lethal. Its illegal to use in any friendly matches. The same applies to Ichijou's favourite strong magic skill. The only difference being able to openly use his magic means Tatsuya can more easily dodge or counter much more of whats thrown at him. He will still always struggle to actually land the finishing magical blow to defeat most talented magic opponents in mock battles. This is simply because his offensive magic, besides decomposition, are all ridiculously weak. Its why he must take advantage of wave amplification and chi techniques.
first, yes his magician rank in the current system will not change, but the way the people view him will change, that what means by getting recognized.And since when yotsuba treat him as a powerful magician? besides maya the butler and couple of other, the clan is unaware of his power that's why his treated as a lowly guardian.What i meant bu changing his underdog status is not in front of his friends, hell all of them knows his from the 10MC and erika,jummonji,mayumi from the yotsuba, also they know his part of the military, and they also know he can use some powerful magic even if he says otherwise. do you really belive that First High or the other Magic Highs still belives his some no name, c-rank magician?
I said change his underdog status inside the yotsuba.You do understand that beeing a clan member doesn`t mean his name will change from shiba to yotsuba, or it will be publicly announced right?
If he were to be recognized as an yotsuba not as a guardian will open whole new possibilities for the story as well as for character development.

Second, mist dispersal is not a lethal spell. It has various effect based on what tatsuya wants to decompose, it varies from small injuries that can cripple an opponent to completely disintegrating the opponent. He can also use that to decompose weapons/cads like he did on the Stardust soldiers.
So using decomposition in a mock battle is not out of the question because its lethal.He can just decompose the opponent Cad rendering him useless, as well as he can use decomposition as aoe spell to protect himself from spells, as well as using it as counter magic(see gram dispesion), as well as using it to destroy other magician defenses, applications are to many to state them here.
And the fact is he did use decomposition in a mock battle against tomitsuka so your argument he cant use it cause it lethal is weak.
You want to compare strength just think of this , in icicle destruction one activation from his trident and the ice pillars will be gone before the opponent has a chance to cast as spell.Or start with a gram dispersion then trident. either way same effect.
Trident= three spells in same activation sequence, a.k.a he can cast three spells at the same time where the opponent needs three separate activation to achieve same effect.An the spells are, Zi decomposition, Data fortification decomposition and last is Mist dispersal. Seems like the perfect triple counter to a normal magician, probably that's why he did that in the first place

As battles go offcourse he struggles against powerful magicians but so does everyone else, you think miyuki being as powerful as she is will just clap her hand and bag the opponent is down? be serious man.
And its the same situation for the opponent, you think just because he's a powerful magician can easily lend a hit on him? We saw in his mock battle with tomitsuka how frustrated tomitsuka was because he was unable to land a hit let alone a decisive one.An tomitsuka was ranked as a powerful magician and a course 1 student.
Besides lina, who resorted to a strategic spell no one else managed to actually land a hit on him that he didn't want to. And lina managed that because the nature of HMB, as the plasma moved at speeds of light was impossible to dodge it in a close range combat.
SoboSobo is offline   Reply With Quote