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Old 2011-07-19, 16:52   Link #164
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Originally Posted by Haak View Post
Generally when a character gives an explanation of something, we can take it as exposition unless it's made abolsutely clear that they're merely guessing and when they're wrong, the characters actually acknowledge the difference so there's no ambiguity for the reader. Kubo has done nothing like that, so either he's really just making it up or he's lacking in basic writing skills.
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Originally Posted by sayde View Post
If that's the case, then we might as well also assume Chad being a fullbringer may not even be true despite what we've been told recently. Or to take it even further, perhaps we should never take anything we're given in this (or any fictional) series at face value...ever. Ultimately I agree with Haak. Though you may feel that Kubo himself never stated anything regarding the matter, these aren't real characters we're dealing with and this story doesn't unfold by itself every week. Every word they say is written by the author, so their words are as close as we're going to get to being tantamount to Kubo's own words.

As the author, Kubo's free to decide whether he wants to change prior established facts or not at any time he wants. However, if he is to do so, I think he should go about it in a way that openly acknowledges and confirms the prior facts in question to be false instead of having his characters completely ignore the old explanations they were given in favor of the new ones. As things currently stand, we actually have no idea what the situation is regarding Chad--especially if we're to go by your own stance on the issue. Because neither Yoruichi, Aizen, or Ginjou could be correct. Or one of them could be correct. Or it may be possible that all of them could be partially correct. There's just simply no way to know. And that's Kubo's fault, which is why part of Bleach's fanbase criticizes him over certain things.
Well here's what the differences in how we think are. I view fiction as windows into the featured character's realms, rather than a wold revolving around plot. It may involve more imagination thinking that way, but it does give more insight and understanding to more "realistic" or "plausible" storytelling. Kubo's being more realistic in this case, as misunderstandings like the subject of this discussion are a lot more plausible if it were to happen IRL. Characters have flaws... their environment would be a lot more truthful. The environment has spoken in regards to Fullbring.

Is it the norm when dealing with fictional elements... maybe not. But I think Kubo's doing a lot better than a lot of other authors just by presenting his characters with flawed understandings of the world around them. Whether it was intended by Kubo or not IMO makes little difference in this case(though granted, keeping things consistent in the future will be harder if it was a mistake)

I can't understand how more realistically plausible elements such as characters being wrong about certain facts can't be accepted, but it sure as hell makes leagues more sense to me. I call it a "liberal" view of fiction.
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