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Old 2008-05-08, 23:00   Link #100
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Originally Posted by Wesley84 View Post
Ozma was using a 6-barreled gunpod.

Spoiler for Boomstick:

Captian Obvious sees 5 barrels

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That sure was not my impression throughout the original TV series. When the Meltlandis wanted to pick a fight, they'd commit everything to the front. However, unlike their male counterparts, the Meltlandis deployed nothing but Queads. Usually in the hundreds, if not thousands. By the latter part of the show, the Queads were being shot by Valkyries in the dozens with each passing minute, and vise versa. Sure, the Queads may be up there in the tech trees, but they were still mass produced like battlepods, albeit in lesser numbers. Regardless, they still managed to outnumber and out-gun Valkyries every time.

Now, the fleet that invaded Earth had approximately 4 million vessels, so in other words, no there weren't just 'hundreds' of Queadluun-Raus, there were thousands, if not tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands, even millions. Considering the full extent of the Zent fleets during Space War I consist of 1,000 ~ 2,000 fleets with 4 ~ 5 million vessels each, Queadluuns may even exist in the hundred millions.

And make no mistake, the Nousjadeul-Ger were meant to be a male equal to the female Queadluun-Rau, and those were also deployed in very large numbers. Its just unfortunate we've never seen a notable ace of the Nousjadeul-Ger, although keep in mind Milia was the only female enemy ace we've encountered in Macross. Then again, Macross doesn't toy with the idea of elitism and aces much, especially given the scale of its battles.

Now, if you take DYRL into account, there were millions of Queadluuns deployed by the Meltlandi Lap-Lamiz fleet just as there were millions of Nousjadeul-Gers deployed by Boldolza's fleet.

- Tak
Er, are we looking at the same show? Zentradi and Meltradi engagement against the SDF-1 throughout most of Space War 1 was either constant harassment or the ambush on Mars. Despite having numerical superiority, the aliens were either very conservative in their operations or just plain reckless.

In the first place, the main reason why the fleet was so conservative was because the commander was under orders to follow the trail of the Supervision Army battleship. Sure he could have blown them away at first instance, but doing so would probably destroy all further leads to the enemy. His priority was capture, not destroy [unlike some of the idiots in the fleet]. When he did attack, it was either to test their defenses or insert infiltrators.

Lets not forget that the SDF-1 had a weapon than can 1-shot a capitol ship as well as execute some unusual tactical manuevers. Any commander worth his salt isn't going to waste that sort of material and manpower, there would be mutiny otherwise. Added to this is the fact that the Zentradi had to keep away from culture bearing civilisations and you basically have an army tied with 1 arm behind its back.

The female fleet that showed up later was also under the same limitations. I suspect QR deployment was more as a deterrant towards rogue elements in the fleet than any notion of combined operations [considering the gender seperation].

Right now I'm wondering about if the current powered armour technology used by humans in Macross F. It's probably the first time it's appeared in the series and serves as a survival suit and integrated pilot suit. Thing is, pilots have to learn how to use it in addition to actually learning how to fly.
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