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Kairin 2016-03-11 21:32

Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen - Episode 23 Discussion / Poll
 
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Stark700 2016-03-12 12:57

Pretty tense episode. It felt kinda like a cat and mouse game. Atui's awesome though. Kuon scared me slightly when her eyes went blank.

And also Kokopo....such a loyal bird.
I guess that cliffhanger sets up for the next episode. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

Tong 2016-03-12 13:43

Phew, now I see that Kuon has indeed god genes from her dad!

FlareKnight 2016-03-12 14:06

Kuon really could just nuke a country if she wanted. Maybe she should go back and get Haku then.

It's not looking good. Oshutoru was a bit better than Vurai in the past. But their conditions going into this fight couldn't be more different. Oshutoru is drained from escaping, the torture, and injuries. Vurai has been chilling the whole night waiting for this....this is bad.

thundrakkon 2016-03-12 17:30

Well, I guess that confirms at least one of the culprits for poisoning Anju, if not the mastermind behind it. Raikou ordered his troops to kill Anju in the pursuit, so there is no question there. He was also the most suspicious one in the previous episodes because he tried to twist the situation around to accuse Oshutoru. Now, the only question that remains is that if he acted alone or with someone else.

Other than that, Kuon finally shows that she does have some powers from her dad. Also, by the looks of things, those powers are way stronger than even Vurai, which is not surprising since this powers are from a fake mask.

Which reminds me, why is the title called the "False Faces (Masks)"? I remember that someone mentioned that it did not have to do with the 3 masks of Yamato's generals. Unless it will be revealed at a later episode, I still don't have a clue what it could refer to if it is not referring to those fake masks.

Nachtwandler 2016-03-12 17:54

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Originally Posted by thundrakkon (Post 5800256)
Well, I guess that confirms at least one of the culprits for poisoning Anju, if not the mastermind behind it. Raikou ordered his troops to kill Anju in the pursuit, so there is no question there. He was also the most suspicious one in the previous episodes because he tried to twist the situation around to accuse Oshutoru. Now, the only question that remains is that if he acted alone or with someone else.

Other than that, Kuon finally shows that she does have some powers from her dad. Also, by the looks of things, those powers are way stronger than even Vurai, which is not surprising since this powers are from a fake mask.

Which reminds me, why is the title called the "False Faces (Masks)"? I remember that someone mentioned that it did not have to do with the 3 masks of Yamato's generals. Unless it will be revealed at a later episode, I still don't have a clue what it could refer to if it is not referring to those fake masks.

IMHO, Woshisu is the most suspicious one. And there are 4 masks in Yamato: Munechika, Vurai, Oshutoru and Mikazuchi use them.

Wargumm1i 2016-03-12 21:38

I have no Idea where this ending is going.........

Hiro Hayase 2016-03-12 22:05

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Originally Posted by thundrakkon (Post 5800256)
Well, I guess that confirms at least one of the culprits for poisoning Anju, if not the mastermind behind it. Raikou ordered his troops to kill Anju in the pursuit, so there is no question there. He was also the most suspicious one in the previous episodes because he tried to twist the situation around to accuse Oshutoru. Now, the only question that remains is that if he acted alone or with someone else.

Other than that, Kuon finally shows that she does have some powers from her dad. Also, by the looks of things, those powers are way stronger than even Vurai, which is not surprising since this powers are from a fake mask.

Which reminds me, why is the title called the "False Faces (Masks)"? I remember that someone mentioned that it did not have to do with the 3 masks of Yamato's generals. Unless it will be revealed at a later episode, I still don't have a clue what it could refer to if it is not referring to those fake masks.

"False Faces (Masks)" there are several interpretations for that. One, it could refer to that fact that many characters in the story/game have a number of secrets hidden. They use one mask for their duty, while hiding their inner selves metaphorically speaking.

Some anime or game you don't understand it's namesake until the very last episode, it could be the case here too.

I like how Haku, Nekone, and the Oni twins were planning to burn the mansion down hahahaha, a shame they didn't.

thundrakkon 2016-03-12 22:34

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Hmm... OK. Thanks. I'll wait to see if this leads to anything.

2 episodes to go. Let's see if they can end it in a bang. I'm pretty sure there will eventually be a Kuon versus Vurai battle at some point.

Oh yeah. Doesn't Haku have a claim to the throne as well, since he is the brother of the emperor?

Darthtabby 2016-03-12 23:12

Perhaps he would if his being the Emperor's brother was common knowledge. But as it stands, who would believe him if he made that claim?

AC-Phoenix 2016-03-12 23:20

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Originally Posted by thundrakkon (Post 5800439)
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Hmm... OK. Thanks. I'll wait to see if this leads to anything.

2 episodes to go. Let's see if they can end it in a bang. I'm pretty sure there will eventually be a Kuon versus Vurai battle at some point.

Oh yeah. Doesn't Haku have a claim to the throne as well, since he is the brother of the emperor?

Theoretically, yes. After Anju that is.

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Originally Posted by Darthtabby (Post 5800468)
Perhaps he would if his being the Emperor's brother was common knowledge. But as it stands, who would believe him if he made that claim?

Honoka can attest to it. They'd also just have to open their eyes as Haku and Mito are both missing two distinctive features every other character in the show (bar Hakuorou) has.

watisit 2016-03-12 23:28

Come to think of it, why don't the twins teleport some of them out?

ValvraveTruth 2016-03-13 04:29

Don't worry, we will know why it is titled "False Face" at the end.

I bet everyone can't wait for the inevitable ending =)

Azurial 2016-03-13 11:43

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Originally Posted by watisit (Post 5800482)
Come to think of it, why don't the twins teleport some of them out?

they set up a barrier to prevent that

FlareKnight 2016-03-13 12:15

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Originally Posted by Azurial (Post 5801015)
they set up a barrier to prevent that

All that they said last week as that they'd be noticed if they used magic to move about. Who cares if they notice it? You are running away! There's no evidence anyone else there can use that kind of transportation magic, they won't catch up to them. The important thing is getting out of the capital. Even if it was a barrier limiting movement entirely, there's no telling that they have that set around the entire capital. The palace? Sure, that's a place you'd have defenses set. But the entirety of it? That's too much territory to lock down so easily, especially if they weren't expecting any attack or teleportation magic to be used.

Azurial 2016-03-13 20:38

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Originally Posted by FlareKnight (Post 5801035)
All that they said last week as that they'd be noticed if they used magic to move about. Who cares if they notice it? You are running away! There's no evidence anyone else there can use that kind of transportation magic, they won't catch up to them. The important thing is getting out of the capital. Even if it was a barrier limiting movement entirely, there's no telling that they have that set around the entire capital. The palace? Sure, that's a place you'd have defenses set. But the entirety of it? That's too much territory to lock down so easily, especially if they weren't expecting any attack or teleportation magic to be used.

remember what the twins said that there is a barrier around the city and the Red gate something like is where the barrier not strong and that where Vurai is also

Top Sergeant 2016-03-13 22:44

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Originally Posted by Azurial (Post 5801385)
remember what the twins said that there is a barrier around the city and the Red gate something like is where the barrier not strong and that where Vurai is also

Speaking of the twins I'd love to learn more about them.

Spectacular_Insanity 2016-03-15 01:13

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Originally Posted by Wargumm1i (Post 5800401)
I have no Idea where this ending is going.........

While I'd normally say that's a good thing, in this case, I'm going to have to say it's not because it's probably because this entire plotline is a muddled mess. There's no clear focus at all on an end-goal for the characters in sight.

I'm honestly not really enjoying this show. I'm only watching out of obligation because I liked the first series. I'm kinda curious about how it will all end, since I haven't played the game, but aside from Kuon, I'm literally not invested in a single one of the characters that weren't from the first series. They're all just archetypes of tropes, and unfortunately lack the depth of personality of characters from Uta 1.

Alf 2016-03-15 03:21

I loves the game so much, but I didn't enjoy it that much as the anime diverge more and more from the game. I used to expect it to have it's own theme, but now I can't see any except anti-thesis of the game plot.

Now I'm only watching to see how does it turn out. If somebody find the overall theme of the anime story please point it out so I can enjoy it more.

Sinestra 2016-03-16 17:01

Holy crap now i know why they said if Kuon was serious she could wipe out an entire country. I dont think any of the generals want any of that. It vaporized everything with a few city blocks and kept going


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