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james0246 2011-11-12 09:54

Fairy Tail - Character Discussion - Lisanna
 
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Etheral 2011-11-13 00:44

So does anyone think there will be more NatsuXLisanna flashbacks?

Oh yea, I discussed this earlier but no definitive, can she do mythical animals? Also knowing the author who writes these things, I wouldn't put it past him to give Lisanna a mythical beast or something.

Clarste 2011-11-13 13:55

Well, given that "beasts" and "animals" are considered different styles of Take Over magic, probably not. What would be the point of Elfman's magic if Lisanna could do the same thing but better? Elfman probably covers magical animals while Lisanna can only do normal animals.

Kafriel 2011-11-13 14:20

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So does anyone think there will be more NatsuXLisanna flashbacks?
Nope, not really...actually I'm not expecting anything out of her, and even if something happens, I'd guess it would have to be in the next arc, assuming she is given a more important role.
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can she do mythical animals?
Not so far, but I wouldn't put it past her to have a cockatrice take over later.

sergel02 2011-11-17 04:13

She reminds me of Beast Boy.

haegar 2011-11-19 07:37

Spoiler for some anime ep 106 spoilers:

Etheral 2011-11-21 18:22

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Originally Posted by haegar (Post 3864079)
Spoiler for some anime ep 106 spoilers:

She probably didn't know about her last battle which was something Mirajane could have mentioned earlier.

dahak 2011-11-21 19:56

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Originally Posted by Etheral (Post 3855052)
Oh yea, I discussed this earlier but no definitive, can she do mythical animals?

There is some evidence that the siblings usual form types are more a matter of custom and preference rather than limits. Much how while Grey and Leon use different subsets of Ul's Ice Maker, they are capable of going beyond them.

As examples back during the Miss Fairy Tail competition Mirajane changed her head into Happy's and Gajeel's for example. Earlier she turned into Lucy as a decoy during Phantom's attack

And

Spoiler for One of the few remaining unanimated side stories [Fairy Tail Special 02]:

immblueversion 2011-11-21 22:30

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Originally Posted by dahak (Post 3867872)
Spoiler for One of the few remaining unanimated side stories [Fairy Tail Special 02]:

The character designs look too close to the middle of the manga's run to be set before the S-Class tests.

Etheral 2011-11-22 23:51

The other thing I'd like to ask is if Lisanna at some point will be picking up different takeovers besides animals. I don't really see why not. Also I'm wondering if she could get a power-up say super giant form or something.

I also mentioned she should be using poisonous creatures more often and she doesn't.

dahak 2011-11-25 01:20

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Originally Posted by immblueversion (Post 3868058)
The character designs look too close to the middle of the manga's run to be set before the S-Class tests.

The S class tests are almost 6 months after Lucy joins Fairy Tail [chapter 201].

Mirajane's Transformation Lesson is 4 months after Lucy joins FT, Lucy's intro tells us that [It was also published with chapter 119 IIRC.].

Therefore Mirajane's Lesson is 1 to 2 months before the S class tests.

sergel02 2012-04-15 14:19

Kind of hoping to see her new powers in this arc at some point. She was training with her siblings and Cana, and both her brother and sister have showed off new spells.

Lol for some reason i keep imagining a giant bird that everyone can fly on

Aquaman OS 2012-04-15 18:12

Well she'll at least be a supporting character in the latest filler arc since she's shown with the group in the opening.

She'll also be fighting the skunk haired lady with her siblings, and Mirajane might not be doing most of the heavy lifting since it looks like she can take control of her.

So maybe she'll get to do something at least.

Kizoku Keenan 2012-04-24 19:09

Do you think Lisanna & Natsu will get married I mean she already said she wants to be his wife, I just can't picture natsu in a tux.

Kafriel 2012-04-25 07:07

I think not...although Rave Master did have a happy ending with everyone married, I'm expecting Fairy Tail to meet a more BoF ending. Some might say that Lisanna was brought back purely as fanservice or that it was a cheap trick left unattended, but at least the anime is making the most of her.

sergel02 2012-04-25 20:35

She could be used a bit more tbh. It seemed like such a huge deal when she was discovered to be alive and returned, but we haven't seen her that much since she's come back. I was expecting a bit more interaction with Mira, Elfman and Natsu.

Tho that little bit she had with Laxus on the island was super cute.

immblueversion 2012-04-26 10:48

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Originally Posted by sergel02 (Post 4129206)
She could be used a bit more tbh. It seemed like such a huge deal when she was discovered to be alive and returned, but we haven't seen her that much since she's come back. I was expecting a bit more interaction with Mira, Elfman and Natsu.

Tho that little bit she had with Laxus on the island was super cute.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you're referring to the manga, because as we've said, the anime does her character a bit more justice than the manga. She's had a couple of cute interactions with each of those characters you find she is lacking in her interactions with.

Spoiler for Anime-only:


That's one of my favorite aspects of the anime. They actually show us some things that Hiro Mashima likely wanted to show in the manga, but couldn't. And even if it wasn't intended...well, they show it anyway.

Kizoku Keenan 2012-04-30 16:12

anyone else think Lisanna has a bit of a bootay?

ranchan13 2012-04-30 17:53

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Originally Posted by Kizoku Keenan (Post 4127250)
Do you think Lisanna & Natsu will get married I mean she already said she wants to be his wife, I just can't picture natsu in a tux.

I doubt it'll be Lisanna and Natsu, because she seems to support Natsu and Lucy getting together

sergel02 2012-04-30 22:08

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Originally Posted by ranchan13 (Post 4138321)
I doubt it'll be Lisanna and Natsu, because she seems to support Natsu and Lucy getting together

I feel like it's Lucy likes Natsu, Natsu likes Lisanna (but maybe doesn't know it), Lisanna support NaLu and Happy ships himself with fish first them Carla.

bowie-sensei 2013-01-13 08:00

I guess Lisanna has much potential, but I can't force myself to like her, especially because of her poor developed return. It could be much better - it's like, Natsu missed her for years just like the rest in the guild and now when she's back nobody gives a fuck. And we can't be sure Natsu likes Lisanna, or he likes Lucy, but Lisanna likes Natsu.. You know, Mashima is such a troll.

ImperialFlameGod8190 2013-01-14 09:37

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Originally Posted by sergel02 (Post 4138747)
I feel like it's Lucy likes Natsu, Natsu likes Lisanna (but maybe doesn't know it), Lisanna support NaLu and Happy ships himself with fish first them Carla.

I think its Lucy likes natsu (as a boy) Natsu and Lisanna like each other. Natsu likes lucy (as a guildmate) Lisanna doesn't support lucy Happy (Trolls everyone with relationships) but likes Carla

Kaijo 2013-01-14 15:09

Actually, Natsu likes both as friends/guildmates. Lisanna seems to like Natsu, and Lucy almost seems to prefer keeping things as friends. Though not totally opposed to the idea (remember the time she thought Natsu liked her?)

ellessarr 2013-01-14 20:13

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Originally Posted by Kaijo (Post 4513024)
Actually, Natsu likes both as friends/guildmates. Lisanna seems to like Natsu, and Lucy almost seems to prefer keeping things as friends. Though not totally opposed to the idea (remember the time she thought Natsu liked her?)

judging for all hints us get from anime/manga/ova/omakes/movies i think who lucy indeed love natsu but due to her inaptitude with love and boyfriends(who was showed in episode 50 or omake 71.5 ) like kaijo say lucy prefer stay in the friend zone confort waiting for natsu confess to her, natsu likes lucy(not totally in love but is in development and already looking th her as his special person) already forget his crush on lisanna and also lisanna forget her crush on natsu and today only really care for her brothers.

natsu i think he have feelings for lucy, all the sources already given many hints who natsu see lucy not just as a guildmater or "nakama" but "something more", i dont say who he totally in love with her but due to his actions (almost live in lucy house(he already sleeped in her house countless times) always calling her to do jobs, alwas come to confort her when she needed, being a almost "special summon" of her to appear 70% to 80% of the times when she is near death or "calling for him"(this is 100%), being few pervert toward her(in the episode 112 of anime in the preview when he talking with happy, happy asking what he likes to do: natsu you do anything more than sleep, eat and fight? - then natsu replay, ofcourse i like to sneak lucy house, i like to mess with lucy, lucy... ; he is too much attached to her to be "just a friend" he is much more a "dense character" who is not to much aware on his own feelings he missjudge his feelings with friendship and having a heavy childsh personality also dont help to much either, since lisanna return from edolas the relation between natsu and lisanna goes total to oblivion they have almost 0 interaction along the manga/anime just one scene here or there, nothing who us can say who he still having feelings for her.

lisanna - i think after all the mangas e animes hints looks like she forget her crush toward him, because the time she spend in edolas(she passed 2 years in edolas looking to edolas lucy flirting in a tsundere way with edolas natsu), this helped her move away from her crush for him and today only look to him like a friend maybe still some very little feelings but not enought to make her want fight with lucy for natsu, she is almost 100% dedicated to her family since her return and already showed 2 times being supportive to natsu x lucy.

Fenrir_valindri 2013-01-18 03:46

I really think the anime just ships it much harder then the manga for its own reasons.

Romance was never really a big deal in Fairy Tail outside of the obvious ones (ErzaxJellal, JuviaxGray). That said, I agree that Natsu sees both as friends, but Lisana likes Natsu in a romantic sense, while Lucy is unsure, but not entirely against the idea.

ellessarr 2013-01-18 14:00

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Originally Posted by Fenrir_valindri (Post 4517295)
I really think the anime just ships it much harder then the manga for its own reasons.

Romance was never really a big deal in Fairy Tail outside of the obvious ones (ErzaxJellal, JuviaxGray). That said, I agree that Natsu sees both as friends, but Lisana likes Natsu in a romantic sense, while Lucy is unsure, but not entirely against the idea.

man i can say who manga even ship more hard(have much more nalu moments than anime or some of then are better in manga than anime)

and i still dont know where peoples get who lisanna still in love with natsu since her return, what u see her doing to show this in anime or even manga?

in other side why peoples keep saying who natsu only see lucy as a "nakama" if is in this way, why he gives to her much attention, why he goes to her house almost every day, almost the times he goes do a job he calls her first or only her, not only anime but in manga mashima made many "omakes"(short stories) showing how natsu and lucy are closing, even have 2 chapters/episodes showing who lucy love natsu(episodes 49, 50, short story 71.5 and short story 158.2) and make one chapter/episode where lucy was sick and natsu was totally sad tho not have lucy at his side(episde 73 and short story 182.5) and ended bring to her a "special gift" if lucy is just a friend why he dont act in the same with lisanna? erza?, both of then was natsu childhood friendship but today he almost dont talk with then(he talk much more with erza than lisanna).

like i told for what i watch in anime and see in manga lisanna maybe still have some feelings(i can't deny this totally until i see her with another guy or natsu and lucy turning in canon) but this feelings dont look like the same from he previous past with him, she already give up from him to lucy(if indeed she love him at last she tried fight with lucy and not ask her to stay with him), if she still have feelings is not enough to make her try again.

since lisanna returns mashima rooted hard her with her brothers, in tenroujima instead she go with natsu team she wanted remain with her brothers and in the others time she appeared aways was at her brothers side, she had little panels/frames with natsu and i think 2 or 3 max or then u cai say who "maybe she still having feelings for him", like the one in mine signature(even here when she see lucy falling in natsu she not looked sad or bad she instead smiled like agreeing with then being funny togheter).

looks like peoples still rooted on natsu and lisanna past just because they had beautfull past this doenst means the things are the same in present.

Fenrir_valindri 2013-01-19 16:39

The thing is, the shipping in the manga is extremely one sided for NatsuxLucy. The most Lucy gives is an occasional blush when Natsu makes a careless comment here or there.

Since when has Natsu blushed around Lucy, since when has he shown anything more then friendship towards her? He worries about Lucy often because she tends to get in trouble, and he also formed a team with her, so she is effectively in the same bracket as Happy (a partner). Heck, he picked Happy over her for the S class exam.

Just because he is friendly towards her doesn't mean he is interested in her romantically.

If you think he only gives Lucy that sort of attention, he has done the same for Erza in multiple arcs (Tower of Heaven, Nirvana), and when he first reunited with Lisana in Edolas his reaction was rather extreme as well, he practically glomped her on sight, though the reaction is understandable.

and of course Lisana will focus on her siblings, they have thought her dead for a number of years and they are her family, so of course she wants to spend time with them.

Also, the shipping of LucyxNatsu in the anime is far greater then the manga, as an avid reader/watcher of both, I can say that without a doubt. Many of the filler scenes tease it without remorse, adding an entirely different dynamic to what we see in the manga. Just look at the latest OVA and compare it to the chapter in the manga.

Mashima isn't the sort for subtlety in this sort of thing, just read Rave Master. The romantic feelings were very obvious, and had a lot of spotlight.

Just compare the two obvious couples I mentioned before. Jellal x Erza has been focused on very often over multiple arcs, Juvia's obsession with Gray is far from a secret. Heck, even Gajeel x Levy is far from subtle.

In comparison, Lucy x Natsu is far more subdued in the manga, and Natsu's past with Lisana gives us more shipping fodder then almost the entirety of the manga to that point gave Lucy. It is part of the reason the back story with Lisana struck everyone as so interesting/tragic, people wanted to know more about her not just because of her relation to Mirajane and Elfman, but her relationship with Natsu.

Strahan 2013-01-19 19:47

As a shounen anime I just assume any romantic stuff will be, at most, done humorously and never really resolved lol. I know romance isn't a part of the regular shounen formula, but would it kill writers to just once devote some serious writing to it?

Personally, Natsu strikes me as still mostly oblivious to romantic feelings. If there is any romance progress, I'd hope it for Juvia to finally get Gray. Poor girl has been pining this long, throw her a bone already :)

MAX_COLA_POWER! 2013-01-21 19:49

I'm starting to think the only manner of love Lisanna is getting from Hiro is in his twitter drawings of her^^;;.

ellessarr 2013-01-21 20:26

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Originally Posted by MAX_COLA_POWER! (Post 4522546)
I'm starting to think the only manner of love Lisanna is getting from Hiro is in his twitter drawings of her^^;;.

hmmm u can post some of then? i'm dont have twitter then is hard to see all the images.

MAX_COLA_POWER! 2013-01-21 20:28

Hmm, I think the image thread should have the link to Hiro's twitter. Give me a moment.

MAX_COLA_POWER! 2013-01-21 20:34

https://twitter.com/i/#!/hiro_mashim...com%2FF4BSihCv there you go, the rest of the slideshow should show some more

ellessarr 2013-01-21 20:44

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Originally Posted by MAX_COLA_POWER! (Post 4522586)
https://twitter.com/i/#!/hiro_mashim...com%2FF4BSihCv there you go, the rest of the slideshow should show some more

thanks guy

MAX_COLA_POWER! 2013-01-21 22:06

no problem friend

Tempest35 2013-01-25 09:29

I must say, Lisanna is prime 'waifu' material and if her big sister is anything to go by, you'll have many happy years with a beautiful woman. :D

It's hard to dislike any woman in Fairy Tail really.

It's too bad that Mashima won't delve into the other aspects of the relationships that he's got going on becuase I'm sure that we'd get a ton of drama from Lisanna/Natsu/Lucy alone. Lisanna hasn't stopped liking Natsu from her time in Edolas and unfortunately, Natsu hasn't really had time to think about Lisanna and Lucy in that way unless Erza knocked him unconscious for some reason or other.

haru_san 2013-08-19 04:03

I love lisanna as a character in fact she is my favorite one yet i dont understand i know that nalu is cannon i dont really like it but i dont mind it =P but i really dont like when people only think of lisanna as a ship with natsu she a nice cute character it just the manga and the anime didnt give her any screen time in fact i have many ideas of an arc that is for lisanna my point is natsu is all like I MISS LISANNA SHUT UP LUCY when she was gone but when she returned they dont even talk to each other anymore... im talking as a friend not as couple

takai 2014-01-31 00:00

I'm not sure how to feel about Lisanna's "return from the dead". On one hand, I'm happy for Natsu, Mira, and Elfman. It's just a nice picture to see them all together again.

On the other hand, her death added a lot of depth to a number of characters, and just the show itself. It's usually care-free and happy, but her death showed both the seriousness and danger of being a wizard.

Still a little conflicted about it, but I'm also happy to see her back with her family, and where Mira can finally be truly happy again.

immblueversion 2014-02-01 00:33

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Originally Posted by takai (Post 4995349)
I'm not sure how to feel about Lisanna's "return from the dead". On one hand, I'm happy for Natsu, Mira, and Elfman. It's just a nice picture to see them all together again.

On the other hand, her death added a lot of depth to a number of characters, and just the show itself. It's usually care-free and happy, but her death showed both the seriousness and danger of being a wizard.

Still a little conflicted about it, but I'm also happy to see her back with her family, and where Mira can finally be truly happy again.

Even Lisanna herself questions the point of her being brought back on a meta level. Not to give anything major away, but in the manga (and upcoming anime, I presume), Mirajane bonds with a character who reminds her of Lisanna for that very reason. Which is nice and all, except Lisanna's kind of alive at that point.

MAX_COLA_POWER! 2014-02-01 09:17

You think Lisanna was brought back just because some mid piece girls started yelling at Hiro at his work about having all these big pieces and small piece girls in the series, there wasn't anything for the in between, and even though Hiro already had plans for that, they just rushed him to the point of, ALRIGHT FINE!, and Lisanna came back?

Eragon 2014-02-02 19:45

She really should not have been brought back. Was a way better character in terms of her impact on the story when she was dead. She has become completely irrelevant since coming back - apart from her ass shots. Her return in-turn made three other characters and their interaction less interesting.


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