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Shadow5YA 2023-11-22 18:24

Spoiler for 243:

Tactics 2023-11-22 22:59

Look at it again, the fight really is opposite of Gojo vs. Sukuna.

Spoiler for 243:

Next chapter is the end for tankoubon vol. 27 so likely one more exposition before we back to Sukuna vs. Yuji and Higuruma.

:heh:

Ka-el 2023-11-23 15:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tactics (Post 6563853)
Look at it again, the fight really is opposite of Gojo vs. Sukuna.

Spoiler for 243:

Next chapter is the end for tankoubon vol. 27 so likely one more exposition before we back to Sukuna vs. Yuji and Higuruma.

:heh:

Spoiler for 243:

Tactics 2023-11-23 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ka-el (Post 6563885)
Spoiler for 243:

Not going to work like that.

Toji already mentioned on Hidden Inventory that killing Curse Spirit Manipulator is dangerous because all CS captured will be uncontrollably released thus he killed Gojo but Geto.
So if Rika eat any portion of Geto body, what Yuta obtained will be CSM skill with no CS attached. Merger can keep going if Kenjaku either already secured the CT somehow or made progress to the point he didn't need Mahito and Tengen CT again.

Shadow5YA 2023-11-24 00:17

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Originally Posted by Tactics (Post 6563899)
Not going to work like that.

Toji already mentioned on Hidden Inventory that killing Curse Spirit Manipulator is dangerous because all CS captured will be uncontrollably released thus he killed Gojo but Geto.
So if Rika eat any portion of Geto body, what Yuta obtained will be CSM skill with no CS attached. Merger can keep going if Kenjaku either already secured the CT somehow or made progress to the point he didn't need Mahito and Tengen CT again.

Toji didn't say he knew what would happen for sure, just that he didn't want to risk it.
Gojo killed Geto and everything was fine anyway.

Tactics 2023-11-24 02:46

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA (Post 6563913)
Gojo killed Geto and everything was fine anyway.

That because Geto have no Curse Spirits on his disposal after Yuta defeated him.

Kenjaku confirmed Geto already spent all of it before he took over. Half to became curse parade in city, half to held his firepower against Yuta;
Geto did said that Uzumaki against Yuta is using all CS he brought except one, Tamamo no Mae, for additional firepower only to be obliterated by Rika as well.

So by time Gojo found him, it totally safe for Gojo to kill him.

Ka-el 2023-11-25 07:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tactics (Post 6563853)
Look at it again, the fight really is opposite of Gojo vs. Sukuna.

Spoiler for 243:

Next chapter is the end for tankoubon vol. 27 so likely one more exposition before we back to Sukuna vs. Yuji and Higuruma.

:heh:

btw Kenjaku can't use Mahito's technique, the technique from the curse can be used only once after using uzumaki and he already used it on tenge barrier at shibuya.

Ka-el 2023-11-25 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tactics (Post 6563899)
Not going to work like that.

Toji already mentioned on Hidden Inventory that killing Curse Spirit Manipulator is dangerous because all CS captured will be uncontrollably released thus he killed Gojo but Geto.
So if Rika eat any portion of Geto body, what Yuta obtained will be CSM skill with no CS attached. Merger can keep going if Kenjaku either already secured the CT somehow or made progress to the point he didn't need Mahito and Tengen CT again.

that's not what I mean. Remember what Geto stated in JJK0? To acquire a curse under someone else's power he must kill the owner and then he can take it for himself, so if Kenjaku is done Yuta can obtain control over Tengen potentially.

Tactics 2023-11-26 08:34

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Originally Posted by Ka-el (Post 6564018)
that's not what I mean. Remember what Geto stated in JJK0? To acquire a curse under someone else's power he must kill the owner and then he can take it for himself, so if Kenjaku is done Yuta can obtain control over Tengen potentially.

Yes, example is Inventory Curse that taken by Geto after Toji death, right?

Telling Rika to eat Tengen is faster, assuming Kenjaku haven't done anything to her and/or her corpse that would invalidate such method.

Ka-el 2023-11-26 09:00

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Originally Posted by WingedAccelerator (Post 6539968)
What is known about Nobara's state are the following:
- Nitta's little brother said he treated Nobara, but she had no pulse, didn't breathe. Not much time has passed since she received the fatal attack, so he said that it's not 0% that she could recover, but Yuuji shouldn't get his hopes up.
- Yuuji asked Megumi about Nobara after Shibuya, what happened to her. Megumi didn't say anything, only his eyes were shown, looking kind of sad. Yuuji clenched his fist and replied that he understands.
- Recently Yuuji brought up the potential of Hana replacing Nobara, but that one could be interpreted in multiple ways.

The manga leans towards she is dead with hints, but refuses to outright say she is dead, therefore her return indeed remains a possibility.

not just that, many thinks that she may have survived because she could have learn to use reverse cursed technique like Gojo, but the problem is that her damage is permanent because Mahito changed her soul's shape, so the mutation that made her head almost explode is impossible to fix.

WingedAccelerator 2023-11-26 13:52

My disappointment is immeasurable with this outcome.

Even if Kenjaku gets a new body or transfers his consciousness, the anticlimactic behading still happened.

Shadow5YA 2023-11-26 17:43

I feel like this chapter will have split reception between Japanese people who know Japanese TV and understand who these celebrities are, and the foreigners who don't and will just remember the ending.

At least with the previous chapter you can still understand the visual gags and absurdity even if you don't understand Japanese.
This chapter is mostly a verbal manzai routine where delivery is key, which I feel is just going to be lost in translation until it gets animated and we can hear Takahiro Sakurai ham it up.

Mad Pierrot 2023-11-28 07:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingedAccelerator (Post 6564109)
My disappointment is immeasurable with this outcome.

Even if Kenjaku gets a new body or transfers his consciousness, the anticlimactic behading still happened.

Anticlimax sure is a common issue in this manga. Mahito got "sucked" by Kenjaku, Gojo got killed offscreen, Kamo...., Jogo defeats Maki and Nanami with a single move, Yuta befriends his enemy from the games, Choso gets a flashback that stops him from finishing Yuji, etc.

Tactics 2023-11-28 08:14

I personally fine with Mahito finished in anti-climatic way since it fit with recurring theme of Disaster Curse finished in way they didn't get what they expected.

Jogo is strong but he's insecure about his own strength until the very end.
To make things worse, he's pitted against Gojo and Sukuna, the top two of series.

Hanami wanted to be useful but she always lose before she made significant differences.
Dagon wanted their group to be appreciated by sorcerers, defeated by reanimated man with no CE who didn't care about it at all.

Mahito always confident, imagine himself as peak evil, predator to benevolent person.
He lose to said benevolent person and backstabbed by Kenjaku. In a way you could say Mahito is the one humiliated the worst since you can argue the other three are unlucky to met the top tiers before they could accomplish something; the moment he learned about Black Flash, he have no excuse for his failure.

Jogo can defeat Maki and Nanami with single move is not anti-climatic.
Jogo is said to have the highest firepower among the quartet so he is indeed capable to one-shot them; the moment Maki, Nanami and Naobito unable to take down Dagon without Toji, their fate is sealed if they ever met Jogo or Mahito afterwards. Besides, it would be weird if Maki and Nanami gave him hard time then we saw him later doing well against 15F Sukuna.

Tactics 2023-11-29 03:01

Spoiler for Chapter 244:

This is final chapter for tankoubon Vol. 27. Next week is break.

Tactics 2023-12-02 03:36

MV for JJK game:

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If this MV alludes some later chapters like Specialz considering there's hint about Megumi possession, Charles, Higuruma, Hakari and Yorozu; my guess.

Spoiler for :

Shadow5YA 2023-12-03 14:53

My guess is that Yuji learned how to attack the soul directly without needing Black Flash now.

Maybe Sukuna getting his technique confiscated is what will get him to bring out whatever that fire is supposed to be again.

Ka-el 2023-12-03 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA (Post 6564591)
My guess is that Yuji learned how to attack the soul directly without needing Black Flash now.

Maybe Sukuna getting his technique confiscated is what will get him to bring out whatever that fire is supposed to be again.

Yuji never needed black flash to attack the soul. Anyway the point of attacking the soul worked only against Mahito because in his case his shape was subjected to his soul manipulation so he could move the soul to avoid being hit. Against any other opponent it's pointless because attacking the body is the same as attacking the soul as they are one.

Shadow5YA 2023-12-03 15:36

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Originally Posted by Ka-el (Post 6564595)
Yuji never needed black flash to attack the soul. Anyway the point of attacking the soul worked only against Mahito because in his case his shape was subjected to his soul manipulation so he could move the soul to avoid being hit. Against any other opponent it's pointless because attacking the body is the same as attacking the soul as they are one.

It's not the same, because the flesh can be healed with Reversed Cursed Technique.
The reason why Mahito was so dangerous was because any damage he did with Idle Transfiguration couldn't be healed.

The same principle can potentially be applied to Yuji's technique.

Ka-el 2023-12-03 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA (Post 6564600)
It's not the same, because the flesh can be healed with Reversed Cursed Technique.
The reason why Mahito was so dangerous was because any damage he did with Idle Transfiguration couldn't be healed.

The same principle can potentially be applied to Yuji's technique.

mahito was dangerous because he changed the shape of the soul, so even if you reverse cursed technique your body just come back to the shape Mahito changed it into. If Yuji strikes someone even if he can hit the soul that can be healed anyway with reverse cursed technique because the shape is still the same, so it's literally pointless against somebody who is not mahito.


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